Super Takfiri Salafi shows character

The following is a brief exchange I had with another pseudo-salafi on paltalk at around 7.00 to 7.10 pm Malaysian time, Tuesday, 6/19/2007.

 You just sent a nudge!

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: Assalamu’alaikum

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: check out my blog at jzk

islaam22: walikum

islaam22: i am gonna hack your blog

islaam22: and destroy the website


-A Muslim hacker? well isn’t that new? lol…anyway..I await his hacking….

 Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: o.O

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: lol masha’Allah

islaam22: you mushrik

islaam22: go and worship your graves

islaam22: you grave licking sufi


– This person has made takfir upon me to which I shall say LA ILA HA ILLALLAH MUHAMMAD RASULULLAH!!!!. He then encourages me to go WORSHIP graves??? subahanallah ! What kind of da’wah is inviting people to commit shirk??? 

If you look above you’ll see that I said the salam to him. Allah s.w.t. says : 

“If a person, to show that he is a Muslim, presents salaam to you, do not just say to him, without investigations, You are not a believer.” (The Holy Quran, 4:94) 

The Sunnah says :

1.“Whenever a man accuses another of being a kafir or wrong-doer, this accusation will rebound on him if the one accused is not in reality a kafir or wrong-doer.” (Bukhari) 

2.“The man who calls another kafir or enemy of God, and the latter was not such, this charge will indeed turn back upon the accused.” (Muslim)  Imam Abu al-Qasim ibn

`Asakir narrates in Tabyin Kadhib al-Muftari (p. 373-) with his chains :

3. From `Ubayd Allah ibn `Umar, from Nafi`: A man said to Ibn `Umar: “I have a neighbor who bears witness against me that I commit shirk.” He replied: “Say: ‘La Ilaha illAllah,’ you will make him a liar.”**TO WHICH I SHALL AGAIN SAY LA ILA HA ILLALLAH MUHAMMAD RASULULLAH !!!!!! 

4. From Sawwar ibn Shabib al-A`raji: I was sitting in Ibn `Umar’s house when a man came and said: “O Ibn `Umar! There are groups of people bearing witness against us and attributing to us kufr and shirk.” Ibn `Umar replied: “Woe to you! Did you not say: ‘La Ilaha IllAllah’?!” Whereupon the entire household began to say La Ilaha IllAllah until the house was shaking. 

5. From al-A`mash, from Abu Sufyan: We came to see Jabir ibn `Abd Allah who lived in Makkah and resided with the Banu Fihr. A man asked him: “Did you [the Companions] use to call anyone from the People of the Qibla [i.e. Muslims], ‘Mushrik’?” He replied: “I seek refuge in Allah.” The man continued: “Did you call anyone from them ‘Kafir’?” He said: “No.”

6. From Sawwar ibn Shabib al-A`raji: I was sitting in Ibn `Umar’s house when a man came and said: “O Ibn `Umar! There are groups of people bearing witness against us and attributing to us kufr and shirk.” Ibn `Umar replied: “Woe to you! Did you not say: ‘La Ilaha IllAllah’?!” Whereupon the entire household began to say La Ilaha IllAllah until the house was shaking. 

7. From Khaddash ibn `Iyash: We were sitting in a circle in al-Kufa when a man among us said: “We were sitting with Abu Hurayra whereupon a young man passed by. A man sitting with us said: ‘This is a Kafir from among the people of the Fire.’ Abu Hurayra rose and went to speak with the young man, asking him: ‘Who are you?’ He replied: ‘Son-and-so, son of So-and-so.’ Abu Hurayra said: ‘Allah have mercy on your father!’ The young man was looking around, so he asked him: ‘What are you looking for?’ He replied: ‘I have not prayed yet.’ Abu Hurayra said: ‘So you pray?’ The young man replied: ‘Subhan Allah!’ Abu Hurayra: ‘And you say Subhan Allah?’ He said: ‘La Ilaha illAllah!!’ Abu Hurayra: ‘And you say La Ilaha illAllah?’ The young man said: ‘I would prefer not to leave Salat even if I were given all there is on the face of the earth.’ Abu Hurayra said: ‘Allah have mercy on you. Allah have mercy on you. Allah have mercy on you.’ Then he came back to his seat in the circle and said: ‘I heard the Messenger of Allah say: “Whoever bears testimony against a Muslim of which the latter is not deserving, let him prepare for his seat in the Fire.” Further Hadith :

1. “Three things are the basis of faith. [One is] to withhold from one who says ‘There is no god but Allah’ — do not call him kafir for any sin, nor expel him from Islam for any misconduct.”
(Abu Dawud, Book of Jihad, 15:33)

2. “Call not the people of your Qibla [i.e. those who face the Ka‘ba in Makka for prayer] as kafir.”
(Al-Nihaya of Ibn Athir, vol. iv, p. 187)


“Withhold [your tongues] from those who say ‘There is no god but Allah’ — do not call them kafir. Whoever calls a reciter of ‘There is no god but Allah’ as a kafir, is nearer to being a kafir himself.”
(Tabarani, reported from Ibn Umar)

 Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: masha’Allah

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: who taught you this commendable ‘adab ya akhi?

islaam22: ISLAAM does

islaam22: i have to hate you

islaam22: because you preach shirk


– Islam teaches him the adab of calling Muslims mushrik??? He has to hate me because I preach shirk? What shirk have I ever preached???? I would very much like to see where the Prophet s.a.w. or his companions ever called one who testified the shahadah MUSHRIK and where he commanded to hate fellow Muslims. 


Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: o.O

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: masha’Allah

islaam22: there is no difference between you and abu jahel

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: ooo

islaam22: abu jahel said ya al lat

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: subahanallah

islaam22: and you go to the grave of the prophet

islaam22: and say ya rasul


– There is no difference between me and abu jahal because he says Ya Al Lat and I say Ya Rasul at the Prophet’s grave? First of all..i’ve never been to Medina. So I have never had the chance to visit the Prophet’s grave..let alone call upon him there. Second of all..let us have a look at what the textual evidence has to say about this issue. 

Can we say Ya Rasul or Ya Fulan fulan at the grave? 

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) came to the graveyard and said: “Assalam-o-Alaika Ya Ahlil Qabur” “Peace be upon you! O the abode of the believing people and we, if God so wills, are about to join you. I love to see my brothers. They (the hearers) said: Aren’t we your brothers-Messenger of Allah? He said: You are my companions, and our brothers are those who have, so far, not come into the world.” Sahih Muslim, Book 002, Number 0482, se also: Sahih Muslim, Book 002, Number 0482, and Sahih Muslim, Book 002, Number 0483, and Sahih Muslim, Book 004, Number 2126

 YA RABBI!!! The Prophet s.a.w. CALLED UPON THE DEAD !!!!!!! shall we make takfir on him now??? NA’UDHUBILLAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

From the Sahabi Malik al-Dar:
The people suffered a drought in `Umar’s khilafa, whereupon a man[Bilal ibn al- Harith – according to ibn Hajar] came to the grave of the Prophet (alayhi salaat wa salaam) and said: “Oh Messenger of Allah! Ask for rain for your Community, for verily they have but perished.” After this the Prophet(alayhi salaat wa salaam) appeared to him in a dream and told him: “Go to `Umar and give him my greeting, then tell him that they will be watered. Tell him: Be clever!” The man went and told `Umar. The latter wept and said: “My Lord! I spare no effort except in what escapes my power.”
 Related by Ibn Abū Shaybah in al-Musannaf (12:31-2#12051); Bayhaqī, Dalā’il-un-nubuwwah (7:47); Ibn ‘Abd-ul-Barr, al-Istī‘āb fī ma‘rifat-il-ashāb (2:464); Subkī, Shifā’-us-siqām fī ziyārat khayr-il-anām (p.130); ‘Alā’-ud-Dīn ‘Alī, Kanz-ul-‘ummāl (8:431#23535); and Abū Ya‘lā Khalīl bin ‘Abdullāh Khalīlī Qazwīnī in Kitāb-ul-irshād fī ma‘rifat ‘ulamā’-il-hadith (1:313-4), as quoted by Mahmūd Sa‘īd Mamdūh in Raf‘-ul-minārah (p.262).
(Musannaf ibn Abi Shaybah vol.12 pg.31-32; Dalaailun-nubuwwah of Imaam Bayhaqi vol.7 pg.47). 

YA RABBI !!!! Al-SAHABAH Bilal Bin Harith CALLED UPON PROPHET MUHAMMAD s.a.w. FOR HELP!!!!!! Shall we make takfir on him????? NA’UDHUBILLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

The fallacious comparison between the Quraisy paganistic worship and the concept of tawassul as approved by Qur’an and Sunnah, practiced by Muslims :

 When the Quraisy pagans called upon their idols, they believed them to have the capacity to grant them things or wishes. Their idolatry involved attributing divinity and godhood to such figures as Al Lat. The Muslims of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jama’ah when doing tawassul for instance through Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. never fall into the blunders of the age of jahiliyyah. We do not think that Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. has the ability to grant us things by his own accord. Ultimately, our goal is Allah s.w.t. The Prophet s.a.w. is used simply as a short cut to him as he has been granted a high maqam or status i.e. shafa’a by Allah s.w.t.  We do not worship nor pray to the grave of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. or anybody’s grave for that matter! Worship is for Allah and Allah alone! Those who reject the permissibility of doing tawassul and its benefits as approved by the Qur’an and Sunnah and further validated by the true ulama’ of Islam have fallen into jahiliyyah themselves. May Allah s.w.t. guide all of us unto the right path.

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: o.O

islaam22: do you pray behind us salafis?

islaam22: hey sufi

islaam22: answer me


– Yes, I do pray behind salafis. 

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: this text is saved and will appear on my blog very shortly…along with comments and explanations backed by textual evidence from the Sunnah

islaam22: dont run away like a chicken

Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: jzk

islaam22: sufi do you pray behind salafis?

islaam22: sufi answer me

islaam22: u chicken


I do not take pleasure in speaking with a fitnah maker, thus I left him and ended the conversation.

***TEXT ENDS*** 

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2 Comments on “Super Takfiri Salafi shows character”

  1. shugriya Says:


  2. Gabriel Hernandez Says:

    As-Salaam ‘Alaykum

    Ya Al-Shafi’i. Akh, just something to think about. Perhaps your site is attractive to guys like this. May Allah guide us all, and purify our hearts. Amin

    Your Brother ibn Yusuf el-Shafi’i

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